Kantara Initiative

Conference IIW8 Room/Time: 7/G

Convener: Brett McDowell

Notes-taker: Kaliya Hamlin

Attendees:
 * Judith Bush OCLC
 * Lucy Lynch ISOC
 * Siddleath B. Verisign
 * Bill Smith SUN
 * Daniela Barosa DataPortability Project - DowJones
 * Mark Lizar MyDex VIP-sig
 * Dave Crocker Brandenburg
 * Kaliya Hamlin - Identity Commons
 * Bill Washburn - XDI.org/OpenID

Technology Discussed/Considered: Kantara, Industry Consortia

Discussion notes, key understandings, outstanding questions, observations, and, if appropriate to this discussion: action items, next steps:

Brett explains what Kantara Initiative he mostly wanted to be here to answer the question
 * New Organization - formed by some in the ID Space - DPP, XDI.org, Liberty Alliance, Information Card Foundation
 * wanted a governance structure that integrated intellectual property governance
 * clear way to participate and have votes
 * for work that is deemed important

Membership - website with proposed charters
 * Two kinds of groups working groups, discussion groups (discussion groups likely precursor to working groups)

Trustees have fiduciary responsibility
 * Leadership council
 * Membership structure

People joining agree to intellectual property agreement of work. The membership funds things and has a final ballot on recommendations.
 * Requires specs to got to standards bodies.
 * The initiative is open and inclusive - not vendor driven.


 * SAML -> enterprise
 * OpenID -> social web

Groups....
 * ID Assurance
 * Telecommunications
 * VPI - Policy
 * VPI - Technology
 * Wakame "hello"
 * ID-WSF & Open Liberty
 * Privacy and Public Policy
 * Concordia x-protocol usecases
 * Multi-protocol ID selector
 * eGov
 * Healthcare
 * WAF
 * IDWSF -> OAuth

Branding Beyond ->Technology
 * Response to call for participation
 * anything like this has to prove itself

Bill - what would constitute critical mass If SUN is a member then SUN's IP is committed
 * Solve cross protocol issues - "do so in an organized manner"
 * for a large number of entities that want to participate in
 * can go on list as individuals

Iain - qualitative and quantitative research properly done

Vendor Driven?
 * as a vendor I don't want a place without deployers loose interested not their business

Kaliya - expressed concern re funding model with the potential for large fights about budget allocation

It is a place for pre and post standards work not just vendor centric end user can come and participate without paying money "get all of the protocols more useful"

Non-technical buckets related to community building
 * Privacy
 * Assurance - ID Assurance Framework
 * Liability - American Bar Association, Collaboration
 * Usability - no proposed projects - yet
 * Security elements
 * Privacy Policy Icon Work (easy to use/control spectrum or matrix) user options beyond yes/no.